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#12779897 Oct 13, 2016 at 11:37 AM · Edited 3 years ago
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Hey all,


I thought it would be beneficial to give everyone a breakdown analysis of our first Nythendra kill but I did not have time to breakdown our Ursoc attempts. I plan on writing an in-depth analysis of our raid weeks every Sunday morning and posting it here (without the opinionated paragraphs at the bottom...just data). I welcome any input in the comments below. If anyone thinks certain data sets or analysis would be helpful, PLEASE let me know... I can manipulate this data fairly easily. If you would like a detailed analysis of yourself, for the raid week, please leave a comment below and I will respond with your data.

The Numbers:

We had 9 total wipes and 1 successful kill on Nythendra. Four attempts on Ursoc.


The following link breaks down top heals/hps and dmg/dps for all Nythendra wipes and the kill:
Damage, DPS, Healing, HPS.


The following breakdown reviews damage taken by the raid from all sources. I only included the last half of wipes and the kill because the first few wipes are going to just be raiders getting used to the mechanics.
Damage taken by source.


The following breakdown reviews deaths by source and lists the three last hits of each death. This is probably the most important data:
Deaths by Source and 3 Last Hits.

The following breakdown reviews DPS and Damage for Normal Cenarius and Xavus to Heroic Ursoc (the last image)..
Your text to link here...

The last image (DPS and Damage) is one of the most key sets of data for this analysis. This data contains percentage columns to the left and the right titled "iLvl %" and Perf %". These compare your performance to other similarly geared, classed, and specced players for that boss on the same difficulty. For example: if you are a frost DK and it says 7% next to your name, you are beating only 7% of other frost DKs, with a similar iLvl, on that boss. It also means 93% of those frost DKs are doing more damage than you. It was pointed out, in the comments, that these numbers are probably low because heroism was not popped during the Ursoc fights.



Analysis:

As you can see... the overall DPS of the top 9 raiders increased quite drastically for the kill. The top 9 all were able to jump from a sub-200K average to closer or higher than a 200K average. Overall, total damage increased quite a bit as well, which could be due to the increased time spent in combat (for the kill). Healing drastically increased from the wipes to the kill as well with almost all the healers jumping above 170K hps.

BURST OF CORRUPTION IS OUR GREATEST ENEMY. Burst of Corruption is the green explosion emitted by the bugs, which spawn while the boss is napping. In our final attempt and kill, we experienced 0 deaths from Burst of Corruption. In almost every wipe, in which we reached the sleep phase, Burst of Corruption absolutely decimated us. If a player did not directly die from Burst of Corruption...chances were that one or two of the last three hits were Burst of Corruption. Some names also consistently standing in the way of Infested Breath... sometimes the killing blow and other times one of the prior three hits. Infested is listed as a big killer but that is more a side affect of being hit with other sources as Infested is a stacking DoT. If someone is killed by Infested it is likely they werent healed in time or were brought low by other sources. Rot was also a high damage mechanic and we saw, throughout the raid, people learning how to move OUT of the raid and improve on infested ground placement.


Summary
From the data above, we can see the raid's damage and healing output, who needs to improve on "bad stuff on ground" awareness, what boss mechanics are causing us the most trouble, and what changes we made to overcome mechanics. It seems like the success of our kill was attributed to a dramatic increase in DPS/Healing and raid awareness in the sleep phase, to avoid those exploding bugs. We also saw a much better avoidance of the raid when infested with Rot.
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#12780583 Oct 13, 2016 at 05:05 PM
Veteran Octopus
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I'm at work so I can't reply in depth, but I would caution against putting any weight on the ursoc wipes ilvl pct tool. We did not reach enrage and therefore did not use heroism and people were saving big cd's and potions for it. Heroism SERIOUSLY boosts DPS numbers.

That being said, I agree that we do not currently have the gear or experience necessary to down h ursoc. I saw on your Reddit post that some people suggested norm clears mixed with h progression as well as skipping ursoc and coming back to him and I find these things are reasonable suggestions. But I do think that you're taking progression more seriously than we do as a guild overall. And r/wow is certainly WAY more hardcore than we would ever even want to be.
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#12780615 Oct 13, 2016 at 05:17 PM · Edited 3 years ago
17 Posts
Yea... I also did not want the post to come across too critical or over analytical...I also did not mean to "bash" on the dps or encroach on raid leader/officer ground. I wanted to post the data and got a bit carried away with my own opinions. We do have some great players and everyone is fun to play with. I also think you are totally right about the heroism thing. Looking back at our heroic Nythendra, the iLvl percentile are much much higher. I went through and deleted the opinion sections because I think you hit the nail on the head with heroism.

I also agree that people on /r/wow can be super critical. I think our group would do well, with some practice, against the dragons or the Spider/Bird.
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#12780787 Oct 13, 2016 at 06:33 PM
Guild Master
58 Posts
Check out my recent forum post!
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#12780836 Oct 13, 2016 at 07:00 PM
17 Posts
Your post is great, Dante. Sounds like a good plan.
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#12780927 Oct 13, 2016 at 07:53 PM
12 Posts
What is the initial "perf" column?
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#12781059 Oct 13, 2016 at 09:26 PM
17 Posts
It is the same as the iLvl % column.

"The last image (DPS and Damage) is one of the most key sets of data for this analysis. This data contains percentage columns to the left and the right titled "iLvl %" and Perf %". These compare your performance to other similarly geared, classed, and specced players for that boss on the same difficulty. For example: if you are a frost DK and it says 7% next to your name, you are beating only 7% of other frost DKs, with a similar iLvl, on that boss. It also means 93% of those frost DKs are doing more damage than you. It was pointed out, in the comments, that these numbers are probably low because heroism was not popped during the Ursoc fights. "
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